Comments on: Forbes Anti-PS3 Fallacies Smacked Down Again by SmashPad

By: TonyP

TonyP — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:32:32 +0000

I have found it almost a necessity for getting the 360's 60 GB Hard Drive if you get the Arcade unit, so that runs the price up $100.

I've had a system since launch that didn't RROD for three years before finally going haywire. It's had some problems of late reading discs though, so what I've been doing is installing games I play frequently and the extra HD space comes in handy.

Good thing is there is the upcoming price drop of the Elite, which will definitely help end this entire argument.

By: TonyP

TonyP — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:20:48 +0000

My point in the article was to call out Forbes for publishing such a weak article in a mainstream publication. Some people may not approve of me writing "even though I keep owning him" but as I've explained in other comments it was brash stylistic choice. This is a blog so I have no disillusions of having to write in a particularly professional way on every single post.

If you read the rest of the post, you would see that my post is that for years we've heard about how bloggers are not real journalists, yet this "real journalist" cited no numbers aside from potentially misleading price points.

By: TonyP

TonyP — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:14:30 +0000

I heard about that article late last night, and though I don't entirely agree, at least Brennon Slattery of PC World tries to make an argument with actual statistics. Though he could've at least provided a link or two when writing: "Also, based on several game reviews I have read, the PS3 often suffers graphical glitches in its games that Microsoft's Xbox 360 simply does not." He obviously has an argument when it comes to the profit failure of the PS3. It reminds me of my article "The Fall of Sony: From #1 to (Barely) #2" which you can read here: http://www.gamer20.com/features/347

By: John

John — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:22:22 +0000

Ah, sorry, it just irked me for some reason.

Also, what do you think of PC World basically saying the same thing now?

Here's a link: http://www.pcworld.com/article/170435/slimmed_ps3...

By: pmeister

pmeister — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:14:56 +0000

yeah… i stopped reading after he said …."even though I keep owning him" …. did he actually make a point in this article?

By: Guy

Guy — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 07:52:54 +0000

Completely agree with LevelHead. The PC World table is complete BS and the only thing dumber then writing that artice there is actually taking it seriously and referring to it here.

It ignores the fact that we are all aware the X360 price cut is imminent: the arcade is already 180$ at selected retailers like amazon, and together with 120GB it's less than 300$.
It ignores the fact that PS3 owners need to pay for QORE 20$ a year if they want to download exclusive content like the Live gold owners on X360.
It ignores the fact that Wifi is not even needed for online in most cases, and the wired connection will give you a much better connection and is definately superior.
It ignores the fact the the X360 consoles provide component HD connection as standard (Pro and elite) and therefore HDMI is not even needed.
It ignores the fact that PS3 controller is 20$ more expensive than X360 controller, so when buying a full set to play with friends at home you need to buy 3 extra controllers so there's a 60$ extra you have to pay for the PS3 on top of the X360 price (180$ compared to 120$).
And it ignores the fact that PS3 needs about 2X to 3X more space than X360 to function properly because of the mandatory HD installs.

By: JoshS

JoshS — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 05:16:22 +0000

I almost forgot how expensive gaming is

By: Art

Art — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 04:48:00 +0000

I would add a bigger hard drive to my 360, because I did. As have almost all of my friends that own one. I also have a ps3 with an upgraded hard drive ( which i bought online for far, far cheaper and with a larger memory than 360) and both are almost full, as would any serious gamer. With thet amount of music, DLC, trailers, video, pictures, etc. i have the original HDD for both systems (which I have had since launch for both) where never going to cut it. But what I found the big difference when purchasing initially was I didn't realise how much I was spending on the 360 because I was buying in little chunks. It Was much harder when the PS3 launched to convince myself to get it because it was one giant chunk of cash but in hindsight I have spent more on 360 hardware than PS3.

By: Solkard

Solkard — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 00:16:55 +0000

My bad, I see you also mentioned the wifi adapter

Minus that,

XBOX 360- ( minus $100 wifi)
Pro: $360
Arcade: $380

PS3 (with wifi): $340

By: Solkard

Solkard — Wed, 19 Aug 2009 23:42:29 +0000

You're absolutely right. Let's make that correction now!

XBOX 360-
Pro: 640 – 30 (HDMI) – 150 (120 HD) = $460
Arcade: 560 – 30 (HDMI) – 150 (120 HD) + 100 (60 HD) = $480

PS3: 370 – 30 (HDMI) = $340

Seems PS3 is still cheaper. Any other price adjustments anyone would like?